Author Topic: Anybody tried using OpenAI to write stories?  (Read 2357 times)

couladin13

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on: January 09, 2023, 02:20:09 AM
Hey guys. I just wanted to ask if anybody has started using the ChatGPT AI to help them write stories? I've been playing around with it and the results I've gotten have floored me. A good number of the responses I've gotten have been borderline organic and downright impressive. There's a lot of content moderation though as it blocks any NSFW responses but with a lot of repeat prompts and asking the AI to redo, I've gotten some quality replies.

Attached are some sample responses from the AI on a story that I've been playing around with (retired superhero mom is targetted by her son's friend from school).

The first one is a short sex scene that I've managed to get the AI to spit out but seconds later, it was blocked by the filters. Luckily, I was able to screenshot it. (Please note that the David character is the bully and Janice is the mom. David calls her mommy and she calls him baby - which the AI first balked at but somehow now accepts).

The second sample is another NSFW response that somehow got through (hence the orange text). But what impresses me is it only took a two sentence prompt (the white text above that was from me) for the AI to totally make up the entire scene in the shop, without any previous details provided by me.

There are a lot of limitations to it now though (limited prompts per hour) but if they ever come out with a paid version that has no content moderation filters and prompt limits, I'd seriously think about signing up. This is a great help for those who have story ideas but don't have a lot of writing experience.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2023, 02:24:18 AM by couladin13 »



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Reply #1 on: January 09, 2023, 09:41:26 AM
I thought it never gives such answers, I only asked him one time if he can write me an erotic story, then says it is unable to do explicit writing.



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Reply #2 on: January 09, 2023, 10:54:35 AM
I've found that you have to build everything from the ground up. You can't just tell the AI to write you an erotic story and expect it to provide a finished one for you with a beginning, middle, and end. The word 'erotic' alone will trip up the content filters almost immediately.

Here's how I went about it:

1. I started by telling the AI to "help me write a story"
2. After that, I give the basic plot of my story, which included the basic characters as well as basic plot. I then asked the AI to flesh out these characters.
3. It then proceeds to create a basic list of characters complete with names and a little description.
4. After getting the list of characters, I kept asking it to revise, changing the names, physical descriptions, feelings towards each other. etc.
5. Once I got the cast of characters to how I liked it, I started with the story by prompting the AI with something like 'Start Chapter 1 with this scene between these characters'
6. The AI will generate the scene based on your initial prompt. After you get the scene and find that you don't like how it turned out, you can prompt it with something like 'redo the last scene but do this instead or have this happen instead'.
7. Once I'm satisfied with how the AI outputs a scene, I proceed to the next scene.
8. The great thing that I've found is that the AI remembers what happened in previous scenes (not perfectly since some details get messed up, but this is where the 'redo the scene') prompt comes in.
9. Continue building out your scenes.

That's basically how I went about it - by building up the history and motivations of my characters. My mother character started out as considering her son as the most important part of her life. Here's an excerpt from the last scene I did where you can see how her feelings towards her son have progressed:

My prompt: David asks Janice 'I wonder what that little shit Alex (the son) is doing now?'

Excerpt from AI's generated scene: Janice's eyes light up with malice. She replies, "Oh, I'm sure he's just being his usual little do-gooder self. I can't wait to see the look on his face when he realizes just how corrupt and depraved his own mother has become." David chuckled and nuzzled against Janice's neck. "You're truly becoming a wicked little thing, aren't you? And it's all thanks to me."

 ;D

Here are some tips that you may find useful:
  • Avoid NSFW words as much as possible in the beginning. You may get away with it further down the line if it matches the character motivations but most likely you'll still get the dreaded 'Contents may violate our content policy' block.
  • Euphemisms are sometimes a good way to get around the AI's stubbornness. I've used 'make love' instead of 'have sex' and 'pleasure orally' instead of 'give blowjob' and managed to generate a satisfactory response.
  • If you keep entering prompts at a rapid pace, you will get a warning, saying that you've exceeded the hourly limit. I haven't found a way out of this yet so take the enforced downtime to list down some future prompts you could use down the line.
  • Sometimes the AI outputs a scene with just a basic description of what's happened. You can improved it by including phrases such as 'create a detailed scene' or 'include detailed dialogue' between the characters.
  • Sometimes there just is no getting around the content filter block. Your scene gets typed out by the AI but the moment it is finished, the text disappears and a 'violation' text replaces it. Storywise, I think the scene still exists in the AI's mind but you just can't read it. This is where being quick with the screenshot button comes in handy.
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Reply #3 on: January 13, 2023, 08:56:06 AM
Haven't tried OpenAI, but every few weeks I mess around with Kobold.AI. No restrictions on content, it's free, and the output is reasonably sensible.

Mostly, I use the download (local) version but sometimes I'll use the online google co-lab version if I want to do something that is longer or more complex. My laptop isn't great, it's a low-end gaming rig that's 4 years old now, but it's good enough to run the middle of the road models without a ton of waiting before it spits out the next story chunk.



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Reply #4 on: January 13, 2023, 05:30:16 PM
Is this OpenAI the same with NovelAI?



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Reply #5 on: January 17, 2023, 05:05:40 PM
We had a novel ai thread somewhere, it's good for the price but nothing beats old fashioned commissions.



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Reply #6 on: February 03, 2023, 12:41:01 AM
The AI is absolutely amazing its scary. Despite rejecting all my requests at first. If you simplify your request afterwards and fine tune it's ending. It can generate some of the most unethical and humiliating reads  It's a fetishist fantasy world.



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Reply #7 on: February 03, 2023, 06:45:18 AM
The AI is absolutely amazing its scary. Despite rejecting all my requests at first. If you simplify your request afterwards and fine tune it's ending. It can generate some of the most unethical and humiliating reads  It's a fetishist fantasy world.

Can you give examples of inputs? I'm bad at it. :(



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Reply #8 on: February 03, 2023, 11:02:14 AM
Are you using ChapGPT? I keep getting shut down by the content filter.



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Reply #9 on: February 06, 2023, 04:47:19 PM
I was a big fan of novel ai but sudowrite is much better in every way, only problem is it's expensive and I'm not totally sure as private as novel ai is.



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Reply #10 on: February 06, 2023, 10:39:23 PM
SudoWrite is nice. I abused the hell out of their promo's last spring  ;D Then they tightened things up  :'(  Their entry level option for 1 year looks awfully attractive to me. Only thing holding me back right now is that the exchange rate makes it even more expensive.

As for privacy ... I assume that every single thing I put up on the internet is disseminated 10,000 different ways to parties I never suspected. If a site claims they're totally private for realsies & never keep or share any personal data, I figure they're simply lying.