Author Topic: Writing stories with AI  (Read 11079 times)

clutterbuck52

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on: June 25, 2023, 07:29:23 PM
I noticed a couple of authors here had used AI to help write stories with the AI contributing to a greater or lesser degree. So I figured I'd have a go.

So I went for the easiest option: Bing Chat. No downloads, no subscriptions, nothing to set up. At first Bing asked me for a genre, and I chose Drama to be on the safe side. I described the characters and the opening scene, and Bing thought it was a great idea for a story. It turned out to be a fun writing partner with lots of nice suggestions of its own. I went easy on the sex content, figuring I would add that later, so instead of saying "they fucked" I used expressions like "they were enjoying themselves" which Bing accepted willingly.

However, after a prompt with some bikinis and flirting, it generated some promising text before removing it again. When I asked why, it answered: I’m sorry, but I can’t show you the text because it violates the safety rules. The scene you described is too racy and inappropriate for me to write. I hope you understand and respect my limitations.

So Bing Chat only gets you so far.

So, I'd be interested to know, what are your experiences with writing with AI? Which AIs have you used and how far would it take You? And how explicit were you allowed to be?

I can post Bing's story if anyone's interested.




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Reply #1 on: June 25, 2023, 07:42:24 PM
Novel ai has gotten much better with Clio while Sudowrite has gotten much worse. Toolbaz is very popular here, though I'd prefer a longer ongoing story instead of just a short prompt. Both Novel ai and toobaz are very explicit.



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Reply #2 on: June 25, 2023, 08:54:00 PM
Great! Thanks. Toolbaz is cluttered with annoying ads, but NovelAI looks promising. Do you have an account or do you only use the free option? I guess the free one doesn't remember your sessions?



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Reply #3 on: June 26, 2023, 10:00:02 AM
Yes I had an opus account. I actually joined Novel AI in June 2021 right when they first opened. The new model should be better but I'm not sure when that's coming out, Clio is good but it's not perfect as it still lacks the coherence of GPT3-4 but those are annoying to get to do NSFW. I also do image to image generation on NAI, some cool stuff can pop out.



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Reply #4 on: June 26, 2023, 02:45:00 PM
Thanks! I must try out Novel AI. Sounds very promising.

And great images! Are the file names the actual image prompts? I see your point about coherence, with the missing nipples and extra arms and strange hands.



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Reply #5 on: June 26, 2023, 04:01:11 PM
Here is my full prompt

hot mom, milf, huge breasts, kissing her son's white bully, mom ntr, cuckold, cuckoldry, netorare, humiliation, embarrassed son, looking at breasts, smug, dark-skinned female, light-skinned male, jealous, blonde male, bully, mean, bad mom, jealous son, bullying, high quality, photo-referenced, breast sucking

You can try it out with a free account. Here's another example of image to image with the above tags. It's not perfect, just something to play around with.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2023, 05:34:35 PM by uglyfucker »



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Reply #6 on: June 27, 2023, 05:58:43 PM
Very nice picture generating there, Uglyfucker! Too bad it doesn't respond to "kissing her son's bully". Also, does it only generate in that anime-style, not any photorealistic stuff?

I had another session with Bing Chat and it was a lot of fun. However it's strictly PG13 and all sex is hinted at. But it was quite happy with adding loud moans and shrieks coming from the daughter's bedroom, and added a mother/daughter deep kiss all of its own. But no wild raunchy raw sex with massive breasts and huge cocks. You'll have to edit them in on your own.

Now, stylistically it's quite flat, with short fifth grade sentences, but I told it to use longer sentences which improved things a lot. I'll definitely be playing more with it.

I have had a go at NovelAI without much luck. To me the user interface is very unintuitive, and I couldn't find any documentation on how to get started. I guess I'm a bit too dense to figure it out, but maybe some of you could give me some pointers?




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Reply #7 on: June 28, 2023, 03:20:46 AM
It does do photorealistic stuff but you can't add other characters to it unless you do the anime style.

In terms of the text ai, you really need to feed it a good prompt first before it will shoot anything good back at you. Like come up with an opening paragraph with the son and mom in the house in the morning or something, and then steadily increase the characters, adding a bully/friends etc. I dont use memory/note/lorebook but with Clio you dont really have to. The AI might think you want incest with the mom and son, or the son being gay with his bully, so you will have to keep steering it in the direction you want. I posted some of my stories in this thread, maybe it will influence you a bit. https://bullyfucksmymom.com/fapping-materials/novel-ai-vastly-improved-ai-writing-site-for-aspiring-erotic-writers/
« Last Edit: June 28, 2023, 03:23:03 AM by uglyfucker »



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Reply #8 on: June 28, 2023, 05:16:44 PM
@Uglyfucker: a quick tip that really improved NovelAI for me is using author's notes. Before you start writing, make a quick author's note in square brackets with a plot synopsis. Something like:
 [plot: a young man struggles and fails to defend his gorgeous stacked Latina single mom from the sexual advances of his white bully]

Style note's like: [author's style: pornographic, netorare, comedy, x, y, z] also help.

These notes will reduce the amount of steering you have to do. The AI will know the direction you want to go. Anything in square brackets gets fed to the AI but not as text of the actual story.

For image generation, I started out using NAI but have moved to mage.space and find it much better. It's basically a web app for running Stable Diffusion. Where NAI has three models, mage currently has 80 and can do every drawn style you can imagine plus true photorealism. Plus it's a flat $15/month without the anlas gimmick that NAI has. And it's also full nsfw capable. I recommend it.



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Reply #9 on: June 28, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
Thanks for the advice TNZ, I'll look into it.



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Reply #10 on: June 29, 2023, 09:02:22 AM
Ok, so I finally got NovelAI to work for me. The trick was to put necessary background information into the Memory bit such as theme, plot points, main characters, and then interact with the AI in the Editor. Once I got going it was a lot of fun, and felt like collaborating with a skilled and patient writer with a really dirty mind.

Big thanks to you, Uglyfucker for getting me through the gate. And to TNZ102 for the great tip.

By the way, do you have to use the square brackets in Memory or Author's Note? I only used Memory, and without any brackets and it seemed to work.

I'll be posting my story soon. But NAI did not correct my own spelling mistakes and typos, so I have to brush it up a little. NAI could probably do that for me too?



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Reply #11 on: June 29, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
I have Grammarly installed on my browser which takes care of that



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Reply #12 on: June 29, 2023, 07:10:17 PM
I have Grammarly installed on my browser which takes care of that

Sounds sensible. Thanks again, UF!



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Reply #13 on: June 30, 2023, 02:03:11 AM
Toolbaz is the best to generate outlines. Then I use GPT4 (which i pretty much can superprompt into saying whatever I want it too now. My friends say I'm an expert) to expand upon paragraphs ect.

I wouldn't trust Bing chat to write anything racy, its just too strict.



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Reply #14 on: June 30, 2023, 11:35:42 AM
No problem guys.

Clutterbuck: I believe author's note is weighted heavier than is the memory box. The square brackets are for when you want the AI to have some information but you don't want it to read it like it's part of the story. It's a way to give the AI something like stage directions.