Those are my two favorite stories in that genre. It’s like impossible to find hot stories where main characters mom is not a slut and her lover is not a bully. I like it when the mom is normal and proper and seduction is slow and she’s very reluctant and son is spying and is revolted but turned on at same time.  I think Home Run is the best I’ve found. There was a story called The Video with a school principal which is good but was removed. Please anyone post some if you know any.