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Fapping Materials / Re: Writing stories with AI
« on: August 05, 2023, 05:37:42 PM »Great post, Beefol! I have the Scroll tier subscription, so I will get access to Kayra in about a week.Can't wait to try it out.
Have you used Clio before you started using Kayra? If so, how do they compare? I have only used Clio, and found that it can come up with some gems, but it can also come up with some extremely clunky sentences. Like: "They smiled at each other because they were happy." Also, I usually have something like: "An erotic story about ..." in memory, and it steers the characters toward fucking from the first sentence.
You can use instruction mode with Clio. Just preface your instructions with curly bracket, and remember to remove your instruction when you get your response.
About the Prose Augmenter: Can you use it to improve on existing text? Like asking it to rewrite one or more paragraphs?
I haven't used Clio before. I only found out about NovelAI after hearing about the buzz around Kayra when it released. But from I hear there is a pretty big difference between the two.
I will say I never have the problem of clunky sentences or uninspired descriptions with Kayra like you may have with the older models. Where I find clunkiness is that the AI may stray to overusing a literary technique which typically happens once the story becomes really long or you over rely on Prose Augmenter. For example, once the AI got in the habit of using at least 10 adjectives to describe anything. I bet the first time it did this it did it for emphatic effect, but it got old when every description would read "he was morose, sad, depressed, heartbroken, sorrowful ..." you get the picture. That being said, it is not hard to break the AI out of these habits by just writing more lines yourself or editing out the AI response's that you don't like and it will usually get back on track.
I am aware that there is the Memory and Author's Note fields but I have not learned how to use them. I do think having a detailed Lorebook is very useful to get the AI to start writing the kind of story you want in the way you want. For example, the Lorebook entry for the mother of the two stories in those examples is 743 tokens long. I am not saying this is the best practice of relying on the Lorebook in this manner, but it does help a lot I think since I notice a big difference between having a small Lorebook vs. a more detailed one. I should also reiterate that I think Kayra does a good job with innuendo and gradual development with a story. I am not really a fan of having a story dive into sex straight out the gate and Kayra can do a good job of developing a story first before segueing into sex and stuff like that. Although it is really up to you to help guide the AI through this process and this is where I think instruct commands shine.
Also it helps a lot to have a good config preset. There are sort of large differences in the kinds of responses that you get if use say Tesseract or Green Active Writer. Tea Time for Kayra is what I use and it is a lot better I think than the default presets.
For your question with Prose Augmenter I am not sure. I don't think it can do that but don't take my word on it. You may be able to accomplish that with the Generate Inline command but I haven't really had good luck with that.